shyeejanut: That is very judgmental. Who are you to say that he has earned no pity? David was right, “Let me not fall into the hands of men, for man is cruel.”

reptiliandude: See how they are, Shyee? Have no misconceptions about what you’re getting yourself into. This is why I created this thread from baking soda and vinegar.

Cosmickev1086: So forgiveness for the hundreds of deaths (if not more)? Who knows what else hes done.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Its more the fact you’ve just cut off any chance of forgiveness. Its so vindictive and judgemental of you to decry a being of any chance of hope for themselves.

How will this help us make a better world? How will this help us heal? If you committed sins, and I told you there’s no chance in hell for you to ever recover your soul, why would you ever change?

Once you dash hope away, and take away the possibility of someone being better, they will despair, and have no motivation to improve themselves.

Not saying you need to forgive people and be all lovey dovey, but if you banish one to hell, don’t be surprised if they’re a bit hellish.

Sorry if I’m coming off as holier than thou.

reptiliandude: The mindset of constant outrage and localized petty vengeance was actually promoted at the time of Yeshua to keep the people off balance so that they couldn’t unify against the ruling classes.

It allowed them to be led by the nose by liars advocating ‘freedom’ who were bought and paid for by the very higher ups they would have never joined forces with had they known who was pulling the puppet strings.

Cuba, and it’s abject poverty where all professions make essentially the same shitty wage and North Korea, where they cut lawns with scissors are but two modern examples of the consequences of constant outrage and following vengeance directed by liars and thieves.

That is why his concept of forgiveness was so controversial and it led to his execution.

Essentially, there has only been one true Christian.

And they killed him as soon as they could.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Well I don’t know about that. I think Fred Rogers was close to becoming a second. So many people trying to gun him down as some pedo, mocking him, or saying he’s corrupting people’s minds.

I’m noticing a pattern here.

reptiliandude: Fred Rogers was a Presbyterian minister.

The goal of the Siriv is to create a mindset where the only the Secular State has the approval of the masses to dictate how to raise children.

That way, the Kayeen through their orchestrators have the final say.

It’s all about indoctrination.

Surely you must have seen this coming.

reptiliandude: Fred Rogers was a Presbyterian minister.

The goal of the Siriv is to create a mindset where the only the Secular State has the approval of the masses to dictate how to raise children.

That way, the Kayeen through their orchestrators have the final say.

It’s all about indoctrination.

Surely you must have seen this coming.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Welp.

That’s depressing.

Cosmickev1086: Is he saying Mr. Rogers is a fake?! His messages seemed heartfelt.

reptiliandude: Mr Rogers a ‘fake?’

Far from it.

He was the real deal.

During the height of the Civil Rights movement, Fred Rogers (Presbyterian Minister) shared a foot bath with a ‘colored man.’

It was Officer Clarence.

Here. Educate yourselves.

Rogers even dried his friend’s feet, in the gentle Quaker method of imitating Christ when he washed and dried his disciples feet.

And he did this knowing that Francois Clemmons, the man who played Officer Clarence was gay.

Christ never once condemned gay people. John was gay and he was quite impressed at how Christ accepted him.

The one who came down on gay people was Paul.

And the Epistles are just that—sermons.

And sermons you can take or leave.

It really is astounding how many people talk smack about Christ having never read the Gospel of John.

Try and understand, the disciples represented the 13 constellations.

Yes, thirteen.

And there are thirteen constellations. You’re supposed to think that there are only twelve.

They made an issue of it and called it the 12, because of the twelve tribes of Israel.

But Mary Magdalene was also a disciple.

They were chosen to represent the many types of humanity.

A woman (prostitute) and a gay man included.

Here’s a few more little tidbits for you to nibble on.

DankNethers: So that would be Ophiuchus, the “serpent-bearer”, no?

Was it omitted due to its association with reptiles? The other signs of the western zodiac are conspicuously bereft of scales, after all

reptiliandude: Yes

ACuriousHumanBeing: So Jesus was Affirmative Action before Affirmative Action was cool?

(Its a joke bois. Don’t jump down my throat.)

reptiliandude: Pretty much.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Any resources for finding out who represents which constellation?

Edit: I’ll try looking into it myself for now. Sorry if this seemed like me ungratefully demanding answers.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Was the demonization of the number 13 meant to muddy this connection?

reptiliandude: Yes. We are not your enemies.

explorer1357: Are there Naigaje disciples too?

ACuriousHumanBeing: Any resources for finding out who represents which constellation?

Edit: I’ll try looking into it myself for now. Sorry if this seemed like me ungratefully demanding answers.

explorer1357: Are there Naigaje disciples too?

ACuriousHumanBeing: Ironic that the man considered by the church(Catholic to be specific) to be one of its founders was gay.

What I would pay to see the look on their faces for them to know this salient fact. *cheeky grin

reptiliandude: It becomes rather obvious in the read.

But, more often than not, neither ‘Christians’ nor critics bother to do just that…

You know…

Actually Read the book that is the basis of the faith.

ACuriousHumanBeing: I know I read it before and said I didn’t see it.

I’ll reread it again.

Any versions in particular one would suggest for this book of Leo dude?

edit: I’ll use the version my grandma gave me.

ACuriousHumanBeing: There is a gospel of Mary. Mayhaps someone will have the (lady)balls to make a bible that includes it one day. Sadly the manuscript found was incomplete. I pray the rest of her words resurface soon.

I must say, I enjoy what I’ve read so far.

Why are we letting a bunch of old men from the early church tell us what is and isn’t of the canon bible.

ACuriousHumanBeing: I think its more people using the secular state determining how people should raise children, and how Fred was part of the machine through Mr. Rogers neighborhood.

garbotalk: Mr. Rogers was a near saint. After seminary, when he observed children’s programming on television, all he saw was clowns tossing pies in faces. He thought it dehumanizing and left children confused.

As a chubby, soft spoken child, he was made fun of and harassed. This led to his great empathy for children. Playing the piano and singing as a child gave him comfort and purpose. He wanted to minister to children through music and puppetry, treating them respectfully when answering their questions. He chose PBS because he didn’t want his mission work to children to be a platform for selling products.

The government wanted to defund public television and held hearings in Congress. Mr. Rogers spoke to them about his work, and made angry congressmen soften and tear up. PBS continued to receive their government funding. https://youtu.be/fKy7ljRr0AA

His mission was to uplift humanity via impacting vulnerable children and encouraging them. He was a husband and father, and beloved by millions, including me. As a little girl, Mr. Rogers was the first adult man I’d ever seen who didn’t yell at me, or dismiss me, make fun of me or tease me. He impacted my life and encouraged my empathy, which has made me a better person. I recently went to watch the documentary about his life which I think is still in theaters. When it ended, every man and woman in the sold out theater was silently crying.