velezaraptor: Entangled plain-polarized photons organized through an optical filter/polarizer in to four groups. This polarized light could form the pattern of phi through mathematical manipulation of the quantity and type of polarizer e.g. 3 linear polarizers at the base following the placement of each set of 3 polarizers (the middle polarizer at 45º) in the next step of the Fibonacci sequence (starting with 2) until the desired length of the sequence is achieved. This is just one of the ideas I consider regarding alternate beacon concepts other than fusion. My question is this: Will we find photons to be the answer best fit for current development to answer the beacon or should I abandon this clumsy method and shoot for the fusion reaction to be the straight and narrow path?

reptiliandude (Admin): The fusion reaction is already being worked on and has been ‘lightly’ discovered. The problem is that the people working in that field keep their heads down least anything they say be confused with the nonsense that is ‘cold’ fusion. “Hey, I just make this nuclear cup vibrate at the same time as…” Is only going to cause consternation among those who don’t want to be associated with any sort of fringe or weird science.

velezaraptor: So the last ‘rediscovery’ of cold fusion actually meant something? I agree, as the rhetoric goes, most will ‘bat their eyes’ at such a notion. I think the reason I’m interested in your information is because it challenges current scientific rigor that clings to its ‘teddy bear’ for security. What does not make sense is the age of the universe in relation to its capability or tendencies. Do I believe that thought processes are limited to our tiny rock? Just the same, do I believe FTL communication has been a precedent for long distance com before we were an itch in the pants of the universe? I was saying how we will have a portable ‘sun’ one could hold in their pocket. Again they just Planck their knowledge from the shortest distance of known testable data. We will master the elements, we have the potential given enough time. I think your right, we could beat the odds and ensure our target with CF. We may not have a receiver built or built correctly. Will we have to wait long to know we achieved our first burp?

explorer1357: http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1402-4896/aa736d Theres a section where he talks about photon entanglement. I barely understand anything but he did talk about PBS (polarizing beam splitters) and linear optics like you mentioned. Bro I think we should go ahead and work on your idea right now, RD said ‘no comment’ to answering the beacon with photon entanglement!!

reptiliandude (Admin): Cold fusion is bunk. Many of the men who thought they had discovered it ruined their careers. As a result, ANYTHING ODD that comes out of ACTUAL FUSION often gets ignored, because of fears that their fellow associates or even worse—the press—will go off half-cocked and people (and especially investors and their own peers) will assume that it has something to do with quackery.

explorer1357: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray Kayeen??

explorer1357: So here is where Im at. We need to ‘tug’ the strings of hydrogen, by ‘pulsing’ towards the Taurids. A transmitter/receiver device that presumably needs to be aimed precisely at the right place, at the right time, and pulse the Fibonacci. Sounds easy, and hard at the same time. If me and my Velociraptor friend use cold fusion instead, to assemble a transmitter capable of tugging the Beacon strings with photons or whatever it is he comes up with, would we technically, legitimately have answered the Beacon? Im hoping theres a way the average worker can answer and be part of something as monumental as the Beacon…

reptiliandude (Admin): Nope. What’s ‘cold’ fusion? As for the Taurids… That was just where a game of tug-of-war took place thousands of years ago.

explorer1357: You mentioned cold fusion, I thought that was supposed to be like a clue or something. But can we still use photons? Maybe somehow we entangle them if Velociraptor finds a way to do so? Taurids is where yall live at?

reptiliandude (Admin): 1 Nope 2 No comment 3 Nope

explorer1357: If youre allowed to speak of other worlds, have there been instances where a chirping world used photons or any alternate method other than hot fusion to answer the beacon?

explorer1357: Take a look at this steaming pile of BS https://m.phys.org/news/2017-06-wow-mystery-space.html

reptiliandude (Admin): Yeah, someone got a crowd-funded telescope out of this premise. A comet could not have produced the intensity of the signal. They have proven nothing. Again, a comet could not have produced the intensity and length of the WoW signal. And no other radio telescope at the time picked it up. And since the Big Ear has since been replaced with a golf course… This is how you make something go away. You sensationalize an unrelated possibility and attach it to words like ‘discovered,’ ‘could be,’ ‘might be,’ ‘experts’ and ‘suggest.’ Then, you smother it with images, rhetoric, data and click bait. Most people have the reading comprehension of children. They attribute meaning to words that do not mean what the context is leading them to believe. ‘Suggest’ does not mean ‘proven.’ But the lip biting, hateful and self-loathing nihilists want to be the go-to answer-men for phenomenon that cannot be explained. “Nothing to see here folks! We’ll do the thinking for you. Move along now, and remember to consume, consume, consume!” And their neophytes march right behind them, casting dirty looks and sneering about, then mob bullying any who dare disagree. They’re like the ignorant gutter snipes who just learned how to read courtesy of the Church back in the days of shit boots and piss pots. It too continues to claim ‘infallibility.’ Many are those who want to make this to go away. You must learn to speak in real time. You must pulse out the Fibonacci sequence. And, you must liberate your society from the religious fundamentalists on the one hand and the atheistic nihilists on the other or you shall surely destroy yourselves. Within a couple of generations you shall be chipped like cattle, if you do not wake the fuck up. You need allies. Cry out for them in the way in which I have shown you here.

garbotalk (Moderator): We need to aim it at the location from where the signal originated.

explorer1357: I know RD didnt really answer your question of alternate answering methods, idk why he likes to dodge questions sometimes, but if you feel this can work I would absolutely be willing to help you and attempt it together. Like you, Ive always believed there must be other ways to answer this thing, theres no way every single Beacon in galactic history was answered only by fusion method. Plus…Im wayyyy to dumb to figure this stuff out and have no access to multi billion dollar fusion reactors. But I do, really, really, really want to do SOMETHING. But we need smart people like you that can come up with ways like what you just described. I honestly dont even know what you said but it sounds smart and therefore it makes sense to me that there is a chance it might work lol

velezaraptor: This Wiki on Bell’s theorem will try to tell you my idea has some flaws. I think what I gathered is maybe photons are more difficult to train to do the fandango than ions. And fusion is an obvious constant, I’m presuming takes a higher stance on etiquette and grace. But when I’m faced with a challenge, I think practical before getting fancy with my subject, so it makes more sense this way I suppose. If I knew we had the time, sure, let’s do fusion since we’re so close. Is 15 MeV enough output though? I keep remembering certain pain points in my hypothesis because of the target RD wants us to follow. I can hear him screaming at his terminal now. So the kinetic energy from nuclear reaction resonates a component unrelated to normal fusion that powers the beacon’s ability to speak(to be used as a doorstop) in real time. Just like anything speaking, there’s vibration, resonance, sound waves, and kinetic energy. So as fusion heats up, what do the molecules do?

explorer1357: I see. I have this crazy image in my head, we have this circular tube filled with hydrogen gas, and we use electricity to ‘spark’ / ‘spike’ the hydrogen into flashes. Somehow we find a way to aim it at the sky and BOOM we pulse fibonacci. Does this make any sense or am i just being dumb? The light technically does involve photons…

velezaraptor: The relation to an advanced weapon tech puts fusion supported beacon tech out of anyone’s reach other than governmentally funded projects with clearance to do so. This is the first problem. The list goes on… I think your inherent understanding is out of sync but ever-correcting. Keep building, just keep building. The electromagnetic pulse correlates to the quality of the signal measured in relation to output. The bigger, the better, I assume.

explorer1357: Lol I love it how you break it to me that my ideas are just a bunch of nonsense in the most eloquent manner 😂😂😂 Yes, fusion supported beacon is outta the question for me too, even if I were to reach out to scientists they would ask why I wanted them to focus on something so specific and random at the same time. My fear is if I then have to explain them the whole thing theyll be put off by the whole craziness and fairy tale like reality.

DankNethers: While mass production is a ways off, I’m willing to bet Skunk Works has a working prototype https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/long-wait-fusion-power-may-be-coming-end-ncna833251

velezaraptor: Have you seen MIT’s mini? https://inhabitat.com/groundbreaking-magnet-technology-from-mit-could-catalyze-renewable-nuclear-fusion-industry-within-10-years/