Part 13: The Ethics of Stewardship: Confronting Alien Exploitation and Human History

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shyeejanut: Define “Exploit.”

PrinceWizdom: In what context? In context of this sentence or in context of the human species?

shyeejanut: Both.

Please define the term exploit.

This is a word that you have used in the first audit to describe what you feel has been happening to yourselves. We wish to establish a talking point in this regard.

— Tamar Rem

Ael’ Kayeen

We shall require RD to open another thread for this later.

— Shyee Janut

Ba’alaket

This is a contentious word among them and requires urgency of redress.

— Kashi Bakut

New advocates declare our desire for personal clarifications as an ignorance of ability to access their own devices. I discussed this with you earlier.

— Shyee Janut

An arrogant and pugilistic species, given more to expressions of self-congratulatory cynicism than a desire to enter any form of discourse. This exercise is pointless.

—Saldin (Bene Phalim)

Naigaje

Lunar_Lander1: Exploit, exploitation: Make use of someone against its will. And usualy non beneficiary to him. A most serious offense/crime for us.

Lunar_Lander1: to Saldin:

If I can answer that on my behalf: For us humans, communicating and sincerly exchanging require empathy and respect. And -with all my respect- since the begining “you” have shown little to none, “you” have even displayed threats.

If you are disaptointed by something it must be a good thing to state it precisely and I’m shure we will go te great extent to make it better. One of my fellow said: It’s hurt to not knowing and being refused to be taught (or something like this). We don’t want to disrespect anybody (in general, there are always exceptions and sociopaths), but we have to understand what is wrong to rectify. Thank you for your understanding.

edit: for curiosity sake and with my respect: waht is a Bene Phalim ? I sound like Nephilim and your name “Saldin” sounds like Saladin, a common name from the area where Nephilim are said to have lived. edit 2: if you consider this insulting, please forgive me and put this on the behalf of us not knowing our history (hidden from us).

shyeejanut: Against good counsel, your species was issued a free pass to longevity and were encouraged to develop steam power to provide you with the tools necessary to compel primitive savages to stop eating each other.

Instead, you made children your concubines, and set up a rule of terror that destroyed every other human adaptation that walked the face of the earth.

For reasons such as these, to say nothing of the lack of oversight on the part of your “creators”— their criminal obfuscation of this corruption of a genetic line falsely promoted as their salvation…

You are a manufactured artifice that has become corrupted and nothing more.

Because of this, you have been slated for internal controls that shall eventually override your processing errors.

You shall be brought forth into the light of day kicking and screaming and those of you who wish not to comply can return back to the trees from whence you came.

—Saldin (Bene Phalim)

Naigaje

LucePrima: I fail to see how the reign of far distant ancestors, bred for longevity, sociopathy, and ease of manipulation by their ‘creators’, has any bearing on this current generation of humanity

To say that sentient creatures, the vast majority of whom do not suffer from a lack of empathy, and comport themselves with dignity, are ‘manufactured artifice’ betrays the mechanistic origins of your viewpoint

Clearly, we are product to you, and nothing more. You assign as much value to the quality of our life as one might a discarded toy

Our rights to our own blood and freedom are equal to any sentient species. We are self-aware, we love, and we are children of God, like all of you

Do your own people not cull their sociopaths in a coming of age ceremony? Thus are our genetic lines so different?

Our civilization has been intentionally designed to bury those who would raise it up from the mire of debt-slavery, narcissism and nihilism

We need a strong hand from a beneficent party. One that could pry open that cruel grip of our masters upon our public affairs and global leadership

Guide us to the Beacon. Let the Assembly sort this out

For both our sakes

ACuriousHumanBeing: For Saldin

It was not the longevity, but the fact it was given to only leaders, and not the species. The fact it was given to aid in business, and not heal. Because of this inequality, what happened was assured.

Also, you acknowledge this obfuscation of genetics is criminal. Why then is such obfuscation continued to this day and not reversed or treated, as would be just? As one who causes damage is required to pay some penance related to their crime, as is on your world and others.

reptiliandude: Greetings, Old friend.

shyeejanut: Ah, the seditionist. Have you told them that you are a wanted criminal among even your own kind? I have observed your actions here and your confessions of guilt are written upon every page. You seek to destroy an enterprise that has finally brought a lasting peace despite irreconcilable differences that resulted in thousands of years of endless war and senseless bloodshed.

This traitor to his own kind seeks to destroy a lasting and substantive peace between multiple worlds.

Do not be deceived by his entreaties to superstition and similarities of faith.

Our interests here are to preserve the human species from the stress of overpopulation and to reverse the effects of the damages caused by ambitions wrought without either foresight or conscience.

—Saldin (Bene Phalim)

Naigaje

reptiliandude: You left out the part where you and I and others like us plunged their world into a thousand years of environmental upheaval in order to access that corporate enterprise.

shyeejanut: And at that time, if I recall correctly, you were the one shouting the loudest that the species needed to be exterminated in its entirety.

—Saldin (Bene Phalim)

Naigaje

fieldlilly: Saldin (Bens Phalim), are you familiar with our concept of a scapegoat? The term comes from the paschal sacrifice of the Jewish Religion, but has come into popular usages throughout many cultures. The way it is used (outside of its religious form) is of ascribing all of our negative traits to a single individual who may or maynot be guilty of any wrongs in or of themselves.

I see a correlation in this instance where you ascribe nothing but pugilistic and negative qualities to my species, ignoring any good qualities, while we were merely tools used in a conflict that we did not start and had no stake in. I see further correlation where when you are reminded of the mandate you were given by the Assembly by one marked as (what translates into our language) a “Spy of God” the meaning of what he said was ignored. Further, denying a truth for a convenience does not make for a very forthright dialogue.

reptiliandude: Until our hands were stayed… Yes.

Lunar_Lander1: As a renegade I can only bow to the suprem compliment which has been leaped on you by Saldim in your introduction ! (semi-joke)

And if it has some importance to you, I don’t know you but as presented here I can only thank you for having crossed the bridge to a greater harmony between you and a related lower species as such cost. You have my respect if its true.

reptiliandude: That was somewhat of an awkward conversation for you to be privy too… So, thank you.

shyeejanut: And where are those who stayed our hands now?

They say nothing and do nothing.

And they have said nothing and done nothing for millennia.

And what has become of these so-called “keepers of the promise” in the last few generations?

Have they not been herded like cattle into the most ignoble deaths at the bequest of entire nations?

And whence came their promise of deliverance?

It came from others foreign to them and from amongst their own kind.

And those “deliverers” also circumvented the “free-wills” of those who would otherwise have slain them.

What rational mind could not conclude that their conspicuous absence of obstruction towards such reprehensible violence directed against the keepers of mere health and safety codes codified into dogma wouldn’t clearly demonstrate indifference or even tacit approval of our influences here to prevent future occurrences of the same?

None have stayed our hands in these, our more recent endeavors.

For these endeavors are a result of a union of minds intent on the preservation of this species despite your insane protestations to the contrary.

Everything is a contest of wills and the road to power.

You do not empower those who lack the foresight and pragmatism necessary to wield it.

Are you blind to how their scientific progress has outpaced their societal responses to the same?

What happened to you, (name withheld) to turn you into this thing that seeks to bring war to your own people and to bring to nothing the labors of thousands of years?

I can’t even speak to you without being overcome with revulsion.

—Saldin (Bene Phalim)

Naigaje.

Edit: Let it be entered into the record that the representative spoke the word “protestations” and the transcriber mistakenly translated it as “admonitions.”

reptiliandude: And was it not Kayeen influence which convinced banks in Munich and New York to fund the ambitions of the son of Alois? Knowing full well that such things would lead to human experimentation to determine the cause of ‘connectivity issues?’ The justification to conscience (if any) was that was that this long-suffering people would, as a result, receive a homeland of their own in the bargain although many innocents would be slain.

Again, ‘the end justifies the means’ is how it plays out among us.

Did that tree of many eyes and the one atop that mercy seat not warn us that it would bless them who bless these and curse them who curse these?

Were we both not there when it spoke unto us?

How can you speak so casually of its silence knowing what it can do and the forces it can wield?

We are by our very insight held to a higher standard, and as such shall receive the greater condemnation.

shyeejanut: The Naigajian representative has expressed no interest in further discourse.

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Who is “Alois”?

Are you referring to Alois Hitler?

Are you referring to Mengel’s experiments?

PrinceWizdom: Yes read it carefully. You’ll see how much all of them have meddled with our history. Some of our greatest heroes and villains always seem to have been under their influence…

Lunar_Lander1: what a sham to be near such knowledge and be restricted… Certain things harms but the thruth ,even harsh, set free.

[deleted]: I know about the Rothschilds and Vatican funding the Nazis. I was just curious as to the nature of the human experimentation that took place. I know that Hitler was one of Them.

I also read that ET groups (a Nordic and Reptilian group in particular have been mentioned) were in cahoots with the Nazis in particular. There were many occultists in the upper-echelon of Nazi leadership. It is no coincidence that these are associated with the groups that migrated to Antarctica (and also the US for that matter). Admiral Byrd discusses this in more detail. His whole fleet got wiped out by unbelievable technologies at the time. The bell craft that they used are reminiscent of alien tech.

They spin Mercury, and as far as I know, this generates a toroidal field, able to produce its own “gravity” in a direction opposite to the planet’s gravity.

PrinceWizdom: Actually Earth has been ‘entangled’ with Uranus.

[deleted]: Is that an attempt at a joke?

Or are you serious?

PrinceWizdom: Dead serious. RD had said so before on the sub. The ‘entanglement’ was done to affect the ‘calibration’ of this planet. It was done by the Kayeen a long time ago

[deleted]: Interesting. I’ll read up on quantum entanglement later.

What do you mean by calibration?

PrinceWizdom: Omg. Everything is coming into picture. The jews were the keepers of promise experimented on by Hitler and his underlings at the behest of the Consortium. And now we know why. Not only was to find the reasons for the mistakes in our ‘calibration’ but also test the Assembly and the fiery one that lays claim to this planet.

Lunar_Lander1: It derserve to have a separate thread on history only.

garbotalk: Yes. It emboldened them to do as they please.

God has given them just enough rope to hang themselves.

LucePrima: That none have yet stayed your hand should inspire caution, not abandon

Are those that made this promise known for the fragility of their memory or their infidelity to their contracts?

Or do they watch through the eyes of those that suffer, and wait for that moment when the greatest good can be done, and the greatest evil can be smote?

You claim that your work here, drawn of many minds, somehow benefits this people merely betrays your ignorance that there is but ONE mind, “I AM,” that stands far above the rest

And you have built an empire on the backs of His children

You who have so many more years than I, yet in your time here have forgotten so much

Life is not about the will to power

It is about LOVE

You would do well to remember that, Saldin

For your own sake

garbotalk:

Noble Saldin,

Great Naigaje soldiers such as yourself have seen terrible evil amongst our kind. The Kayeen laid waste to your world and used primitive, starving, axe wielding proto-humans to attack your suffering species. I understand how our faces strike anger and revulsion in you, for they remind you of these vicious, albeit drugged and starved, cannibals.

Your desire to end us using comets during the great cataclysm 13,000 years ago nearly came to fruition. But what a terrible cost it was to your species, both physically and financially.

For that One who sees through our eyes rose up against you, and slaughtered those who dared cross Him. He demanded of your species to fund the restoration of our world and help those of us who survived. And you have done so.

Yet, we were lifted up only to have yokes placed upon us, that we might provide you profit. Our bodies have suffered from your put upon contagions. We have died over and over as you have allowed these Kayeen enemies of yours to experiment on us, enjoy perversions of pedophilia from our children, and manipulate us to turn away from the One, so that we would not call upon Him.

And now the enemies of your past are gathering at your gate. They are creating new weapons to use against you, those bodies of ours that they so crave, overwritten with their sociopathic and twisted minds. How strong and powerful will they be then?

When my children are overwritten by these ancient, covetous beings, and they again attack your home world, what will you say to your descendents who ask you why you let this happen?

Are you so desperate to wash your hands of us that you do not see the evil you are allowing to happen to us?

I ask you, are we who educate and love our children, who create laws to provide justice, who worship the same One, who love and laugh, who create innovative and marvelous things, who are evolving at breath taking speeds…..are we not different today than we were before? Have we not grown? Has the God who interceded on our behalf not sent Jesus Christ to us as He did Yeja to you?

His patience is long, but not everlasting. Do you dare to doom your descendants to pay for the choices you make today?

We are in need, one last time. And though your profit will be reduced, you will still have your society, your proud houses, your faith, your Naigaje.

Let us retain our minds, that our souls may offer our uniqueness to the Father. Those of us with light and hope seek goodness and mercy. Let us not be manipulated against our own best interests, to call out the name of God.

Let us answer the beacon.

garbotalk: 3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

2 Peter 3:3-10

ACuriousHumanBeing: The said thing is many won’t even have memories to deny

Lunar_Lander1: excuse me to interfere but I have to say many of us struggle and battle each day to make things better for all. And specificaly since one generation at least, there is more peoples aware and awake who want nothing more than live in peace for the greater good. Each day here is a struggle to meet even the basic need when you live by the virtue but nonetheless many battle for it and seek the One truely.

PrinceWizdom: I’ve been pondering long and hard about this. While I acknowledge that we as humans are far less knowledgeable than you, I can’t help but see some glaring weaknesses in this argument. It’s like logic at it’s most potent becomes foolishness. I only seek to speculate on the foundations of these conclusions, because should a crack appear in one of them it would cause all assumptions to crash and burn.