DestinyAcension: In light of our upcoming solar eclipse is there anything special to look for during the event? Or is it just a natural spectacle to be observed? Just curious about it since we won’t experience another one like it for quite some time.

Also as I’m continuously re reading the threads scanning for updates I’m hoping you could clarify some things for me and others who may be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of info you and garbotalk have compiled for us. So here goes

As I understand the kayeen are around 6 to 7 foot tall. the giants we found in south Africa are they the remains of the kayeen or augmented humans used for thier war machine?

How far reaching is the kayeen influence on our world? I ask only because given China and Russia’s current trajectory it would seem we are on the cusp of a transference of world power not seen since ww2. Now how can China in particular advance it’s abilities in quantum communications and simultaneously push for lunar exploration when such advancements have been suppressed by the kayeen for so long? Is there something were missing since to my understanding luna is essentially occupied territory. how would the kayeen allow this under their watch?

reptiliandude: What you are missing is the potential for a global shift in power which would make access to product and payment for such commodity much more efficient. The current method of obtaining product is costly and time consuming. It would be far more cost effective for you to simply harvest from among your own.

garbotalk: When you speak like this, my heart breaks and my blood boils. This is the position of the Consortium that you are articulating. And its absolute callousness shows no regard for humanity at all. We are manipulated to our own destruction like puppets on a string. It is that devastatingly easy for them to harvest us.

reptiliandude: I am an auditor for those who Calibrate Standardized Time.

Your breathtakingly self-destructive species is viewed solely as investment and as investment potential simply because you have not collectively demonstrated anything else to the contrary to outweigh that current viewpoint.

Neither does your world possess anything of tangible value outside the exploitation of the genetic and core resources of your species and that of your flora and fauna.

Your currency is fiat and has no value to us.

Your gold and silver is worthless to us as it is easily obtained elsewhere, in far less gravity, mined autonomously in currently existing claims.

You wax poetically about this thing you call ‘humanity’ and your so-called ‘human rights…’

But your society has its very foundation based upon strange, mutually assured hypocrisies, which demand that truth be assailed to preserve shrines to ignorance and cupidity.

You have killed or driven away nearly all which this Assembly has sent to you.

Have you ever considered this?

While it is your right and well within your capacity to summon those more technologically advanced than Ourselves, have you really considered the consequences?

Have you considered that what you call ‘freedom’ could in in reality be nothing more than an expensive and troubling pipe dream?

The Assembly is pragmatic and results oriented.

While they will indeed drive those interfering with your evolution off-world for a time, your entire species will be forced into a technological and societal boot-camp of sorts…

While the scales will indeed be lifted from your eyes and a knowledge of that which has been kept from you will fill this world like the waters cover the seas, your responsibilities for your own actions will also increase substantially.

Currently, you are considered at best to hold the legal requirements of minors or children who haven’t yet even begun their primary classes.

The Assembly will offer you a rigid system which will not tolerate those things which you yourselves have grown so accustomed to.

I have compared it to a societal and technological boot camp of sorts… This is no small exaggeration.

While sickness and want will be eliminated for the ease of transition into your training, what proof do you have that you will not wander aimlessly like the Israelites in your Biblical stories of old?

How do you know that in less than a generation you won’t forget the days of your ‘servitude’ and long for the figs and the pomegranates of those who put you to the task as well as your firstborn to the sword?

Consider carefully what you are encouraging others to do.

So far, has not your ignorance been bliss?

garbotalk: I’ll take the elimination of sickness and want in trade for some moral rules to live by any day of the week. All of us would.

Kicking out our abusers would be glorious. In a thousand years, with our trajectory record and unmolsted, we could become a great civilization, aware of our reality and ready to bring a new perspective to the ancient traditions of the older races.

For one, we would survive as ourselves, not body suits for Kayeen brains.

For two, our slavers would be brought low, unable to hurt us any more.

For three, we would see the universe as it truly is, not the artificial bubble we have now.

For four, we could learn how to defend ourselves from asteroids, comets and greedy aliens trying to steal our lives and possessions from us.

For five, we will be able to heal our damaged genome set on self destruct mode. Imagine what a full life might mean to our culture. Our elders could advise more than just their own children. They might advise grand children, great grandchildren, maybe even great great grandchildren. We won’t so easily forget our history if multiple living generations become a wisdom resource we don’t currently have.

Mostly I want to see what it means to live life as a human on my own, without Kayeen wearing humans like suits as they drag us to our destruction and deaths.

dogsdontfly: Ignorance is bliss, yes, but I choose the red pill. Nothing that is worth it in life comes easy.

reptiliandude: And what of those who are dependent upon the genetic resources of this world?

Would you condemn them to an existence of suffering and perhaps even death so that you could play the role of the ‘Prodigal Son?’

Or, have you already forgotten how the lad squandered his inheritance with riotous living?

garbotalk: You are asking me to pity aliens whose life is extended as ours are shortened?

Tough shit! My body is my own! Live within yours and quit mucking up your genome you arrogant idiots!

If you catch a disease, let your own immunities process it! Leave us out of it!

If you might go extinct because you don’t have access to us for free anymore, considering offering fair compensation to those of us willing to consider helping you, if you ASK!

$$&#;%??$#=!*#@,?)!!!!!!

ACuriousHumanBeing: Like, we wouldn’t even ask for much. Heck, we might donate it out of a sense of goodwill and human decency. Ala Doctors Without Borders and the free vacines you can get at Walgreens and Target.

But seriously, for god’s sake, ask!!!

ACuriousHumanBeing: Ah.

But you so forget the moral of the story young man, ancient dragon.

For he had to indeed wonder,

so he could then choose to grow up, and become his family again.

And his choice, his currency, created some semblence of what you call value to his being. Meaningless until he had a choice to determine his worth, determine his self, determined the value of what he left behind.

But it is troubling for one to lose thier healthcare.

But then again, you talk about responsibilty, evolution, and all of that. So if that is true, then why mourn the losses of those who failed to evolve, and put themselves into the box in the first place. Why not let them suffer and die by thier own foolish actions and let evolution take its course…..

Though truly those I’ve wirtten words are callous and cruel.

But in the absense of mercy and redemption, they ring true. Play these concepts still yet remain when it is time for our Virtue’s Last Reward. For I’d rather live in a world where our mistakes may yet be forgiven and changed.

I tire of those who consider not empathy.

Look to Garbo, she understands the subject of grace, more than the Consortium ever will. Pray we all have mercy in this life and in the next.

As with your kin, our choices will be messy.

But it must be messy if we’re too ever learn.

Else one day the dam will break.

And god help is all when that happens.

reptiliandude: When that ‘dam breaks,’ as you so eloquently put it…

Within a thousand years, you will have forgotten your own past and embraced that collective amnesia you are so well-renowned for.

What could truly be called new here, save for your dependence upon flickering lights and memories which you summon into your hands rather than from your hearts and your heads?

These trinkets are not even your own… They are borrowed, and your so-called discoveries and ownership of them is but illusory.

And you can lose them all in-a-single-brief-moment…

How will you pass down any sustainable knowledge, if all that matters to your leadership is what sort of things promote spending and incurred debt?

Oral tradition is mocked, proper letters too much trouble to learn…

All it would take is but the toss of a stone, and the result would be the loss of an epoch.

Look around you…

The evidence of your formal grandeur is right there, crumbling and forgotten.

Those who seek to raise it up to remind you of your hubris and vulnerability are mocked and marginalized.

Are you really capable of ruling over your own with any semblance of original thought or purpose when you willingly deny how many times you’ve tragically lost it all?

I ponder these things often…

ACuriousHumanBeing: I too ponder things wise Glycon.

First I it yet funny how you so easily contradict yourself. For not too long ago you spoke to Garbo of how my kin long ago used your langauge, only to then make it our own.

Everything is derivative of something. Forget not this.

And borrowed? Since when have gifts ever been borrowed? These tools have been given us. And they since evolve with us, and become our own. And if lose them…we’ll find new tools, and new means of life.

And perhaps this new currency must now fill in where we fail. A currency that shall teach as it is traded.

And your gifts thusly folded into such a currency.

And crom these ashes new civilization and people shall rise.

And my people will live for themselves. Not for aliens, not for deaf kings or corupt companies. For us, for humanity. For my kin will live as they want, as we still do. We can learn from you yes, but ultimatly it has to be our choice. Not yours’, the assembly’s, or even god’s, but our own. Else this whole thing the One has created will have thusly failed, for it would be against his own self to have such a decision made for us.

So if you would please,

have us decide,

and find out how holy matter can truly actually become.

reptiliandude: When that ‘dam breaks,’ as you so eloquently put it…

Within a thousand years, you will have forgotten your own past and embraced that collective amnesia you are so well-renowned for.

What could truly be called new here, save for your dependence upon flickering lights and memories which you summon into your hands rather than from your hearts and your heads?

These trinkets are not even your own… They are borrowed, and your so-called discoveries and ownership of them is but illusory.

And you can lose them all in-a-single-brief-moment…

How will you pass down any sustainable knowledge, if all that matters to your leadership is what sort of things promote spending and incurred debt?

Oral tradition is mocked, proper letters too much trouble to learn…

All it would take is but the toss of a stone, and the result would be the loss of an epoch.

Look around you…

The evidence of your formal grandeur is right there, crumbling and forgotten.

Those who seek to raise it up to remind you of your hubris and vulnerability are mocked and marginalized.

Are you really capable of ruling over your own with any semblance of original thought or purpose when you willingly deny how many times you’ve tragically lost it all?

I ponder these things often…

garbotalk: I would like the opportunity for us to try to stand on our own two feet, once the Assembly rights the ship.

A thousand years to get it together would be wonderful.

Question: I would still like for the Naigaje and Ba’alaket to openly interact with us though… As humans are boring lol.

garbotalk: Interact, yes.

Manipulate and lead by the nose, no.

Question: Of course not.

I meant like them openly walking the cities of NYC, Chicago, LA and us being able to travel to their worlds.

garbotalk: You know, our isolation prevents advanced races from leading by example.

We’re like the home schooled kids that don’t know how to behave in social situations. We’re too loud, we interrupt too much and think we know it all.

It would humble us to see how other civilizations thrive. We’re so good at copying, we might just learn some new tricks.

But not in isolation.

DestinyAcension: Edit: you say harvest among our own. I was thinking couldn’t we use our blood product as currency? Convincing the world populous that its in our best interest is a hard line to push. We could be a force for good not simply product. Offering life to the universe of our own free will. Regardless of our hate toward the kayeen unless we are subjugated outright we will have to find a middle ground once/if we get a voice, just as your species did long ago one day we will share the same table. In the interest of all parties involved i would simply hope for peace even if its shaky it sounds better than the alternative.

reptiliandude: Yes. But not more open, just more cost effective and efficient.

garbotalk: I’ll take the elimination of sickness and want in trade for some moral rules to live by any day of the week. All of us would.

Kicking out our abusers would be glorious. In a thousand years, with our trajectory record and unmolsted, we could become a great civilization, aware of our reality and ready to bring a new perspective to the ancient traditions of the older races.

For one, we would survive as ourselves, not body suits for Kayeen brains.

For two, our slavers would be brought low, unable to hurt us any more.

For three, we would see the universe as it truly is, not the artificial bubble we have now.

For four, we could learn how to defend ourselves from asteroids, comets and greedy aliens trying to steal our lives and possessions from us.

For five, we will be able to heal our damaged genome set on self destruct mode. Imagine what a full life might mean to our culture. Our elders could advise more than just their own children. They might advise grand children, great grandchildren, maybe even great great grandchildren. We won’t so easily forget our history if multiple living generations become a wisdom resource we don’t currently have.

Mostly I want to see what it means to live life as a human on my own, without Kayeen wearing humans like suits as they drag us to our destruction and deaths.

DankNethers: Many who read this sub should know that Glycon is, in his cranky, holier-than-thou way, forcing us all to consider, and perhaps even understand, a view that is broadly held in the Galaxy to justify the harvest of this planet and many others

But that view is itself a hypocricy, bred of arrogance

While our myriad hypocricies are bred of ignorance

However, I cannot often help but agree with the prevailing arrogant view

For most of humanity is deaf, dumb and blind to reason

And in order for us to have any hope of advancing our society sufficiently enough to ensure some relevancy on the galactic stage, many on this planet will need to be silenced, neutered or otherwise rendered into product

Too many here stand in their own way

garbotalk: He is a fire starter. And Lord knows, he’s good at inspiring a burning rage within me. I am livid!

We don’t have to accept the fate the Consortium intends for us. We can take the wheel.