Monsters Inc.

Someone be so kind as to explain to me how the hell inter-dimensional beings (or those of us who jump through such places) feed off of pain and suffering.

How does suffering constitute a form of nourishment?

Has anyone even thought this through?

Im opening this thread for a discussion of that topic.

Be advised that you might get a metaphorical shotgun to the face in this thread as it is a sore spot for those of us who are just sick and tired of being accused of being ‘negatively oriented beings’ and other such bigoted nonsense.

shyeejanut: This is quite possibly the subject which offends the most. Thank you from all of us for finally addressing this.

reptiliandude: Thank you for publicly thanking me. You seem in rare spirits. I saw your clever display of humor a while back. Is there a special occasion?

shyeejanut: If you have to ask I’ll leave you to your ignorance and that ever present conscience that vexes you so.

ACuriousHumanBeing: We await your return, well return to commenting anyway. Your voice is appreciated.

garbotalk: He missed an anniversary, didn’t he.

explorer1357: Lol I would have never thought of that

LucePrima: This offends the most? This ludicrous idea of what might constitute life, readily rejected by most people with half a brain, and almost certainly propagated by your fellow investors and political rivals?

This nonsense?

While humans, under your management, ravage the land, sour the seas, war with alarming regularity, and don’t show any signs of growing up

Isn’t our behavior a touch more alarming than our misconceptions?

Misconceptions that you could dispel with little effort

And behavior that is a direct consequence of the Consortium’s mismanagement

So if you want people to know more about your kind and those other sunset races that are bound to this world… Tell us

We’d love to know more

garbotalk: I can’t imagine being maligned in such a way. To think that God would create a universe with beings who gather nutrition from the torture and suffering of others is a horrific blasphemy to He who loves us all so unconditionally.

To be libeled by the Kayeen in an effort to throw blame off themselves and onto you would make my blood boil. The suffering they cause is tactical, as is blaming reptilians for what the Kayeen have done, lying and sowing discord as they defame your labors here. I don’t know how you can even work with them after such an affront.

I’m sorry my people have been duped into believing such nonsense and will continue to proclaim your innocence in this matter. We need your help against the Kayeen’s plans to overwrite us. Overcoming our Kayeen influenced prejudices is a necessary step in good relations with reptilians.

[deleted]: A lot of people get hung up on appearances. We do have some human moral teachings that, despite what we physically see between monster or human, the real monster is one on the inside.

Van Helsing (2004 movie)

Witcher Series

Undertale (game)

SOTN

Seeing the inside is more revealing than faces, carapaces, feathers and scales.

ACuriousHumanBeing: After reading this sub I’d be more inclined to believe you feed of memes than anything else.

reptiliandude:

lelekfalo: 😂

suddenlysnowedinn:  What about fear? I hear adrenochrome is a hell of a drug.

garbotalk: That is total bullshit, another lie perpetuated by the Kayeen.

LucePrima: Thank you. This propaganda is nearly as obnoxious as the negative energy shit

And you got down voted, of course…!

LucePrima: Well, for one thing, those of you that don’t look like hairless baboons are obviously from another dimension

In that dimension, suffering isn’t a state of being. It’s what’s for dinner

We know this because robot-voiced narrators on poorly edited YouTube videos tell us as much

And, having lost all good sense somewhere between that last Flat Earther video and the perfidious ravings of that orange ass in the White House, we believed it

reptiliandude: I’ve never heard anything more asinine than that there exists a race of inter-dimensional beings who break down pain and suffering into some transmogrified protein of nourishment.

You know who gets off on causing suffering and pain?

Psychopaths.

You know who talks people into pimping their kids for political empowerment?

Psychopaths.

Hell, they used to pass their children in the fires unto Moloch back in the pre-Hebrew days of old Mess O’ Potamia.

The rulers understood the psychology behind parents having to accept that the burned and charred lips formed into a ghastly grin were actually from the happiness of the child of entering the kingdom of Moloch.

To think otherwise would be to have to admit that they subjected to torture and death their own children for political expediency and the financial gain that would come from it.

Now they just convince themselves that little kids really do like to fuck if you bring them up into it gradually and without all that having to answer to ‘God’ nonsense.

Plus it makes great blackmail and extortion material if someone had vacation videos made where you got to do things that money usually just can’t buy.

What a cheap thrill it must be for the soulless when they’re bored with the usual rabble throwing themselves at them and kissing their asses.

But inter-dimensional brings feeding off the practice?

No.

But as one child is raped in one place, so does another wake up elsewhere screaming because a monster was attacking them.

So does the communication of pain and suffering caused by evil travel through the information conduits of this place ruled by thirds.

It is not a food product, but a communications product that multiplies and affects others and so also causes them to suffer and err.

LucePrima: Indeed, and thus why I gestured, albeit with jocularity, at the current state of the world

Though, to your point, I could have just as easily made reference to the imagistic culture of celebrity instagram and intentional autism to describe our sorry state

5400123: That would invite the idea that suffering brings about more of itself, so the idea that beings “feed” on it would be more of a metaphor than a literal act. Moreso suffering is inflicted to keep the system of power built on it functioning.

reptiliandude: Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made.

The system is designed to create and sustain the latter.

LucePrima: Blame the media

Our modern mythos is filled with heroes that dip more than a toe into the pool of sociopathy

In fiction, many protagonists struggle with empathy and have a passing fling with conscience, feeding their emptiness with ultraviolence and hedonism

And when we look to examples of heroism in our own world, we are often presented with those titans of industry that have earmarked a portion of their fortunes to fighting bulimia or growing trees in the wild or some other similar cause that’s on the bleeding edge of popular ethics

(And that earmarked portion just so happens to equal that amount of their taxes that can be written off…)

While in their professional lives take actions in the name of profit that harm the consumer or the environment, and are met with applause

The trick is looking for it where they don’t want you to see it

For these impulses breed in the undercurrents of our dreams

And here we are, sailing along at a fair clip, unaware of the storm over the horizon

LucePrima:  And it bears reminding that your kind could shatter these illusions quickly and decisively, were you to come clean about your presence here

Instead, your more relatively profuse ‘rivals’ have taken to clogging up our airwaves with caricatures and dregs

emperorbma: It is a New Age BS meme based on a Yin Yang view of good and evil. They think evil is energy and can be used by psychic forces just like good is.

Edit: It’s actually a corruption of a valid theological understanding of God as the “ground of being.” The implication being that evil is a lack of the good God created. The point is valid only in the measure of intent not physical qualities.

This meme has since been divorced from God and remarried to Eastern mysticism during the Hippie era due to their love of Buddhist ideas.

GrizzlyBearly:  Some people are having experiences that they are trying to understand the basis for. I’m sure that may result in them conflating numerous different types entities, by searching for explanations.

Astral travel and sleep paralysis result in visualizing shadow beings that seem to have a desire to make one scared.

Now some people explain this as one’s own psyche trying to challenge your fears. While others feel this in no way could be originating from the internal and instead comes from the external. If it is from the external, then they wonder why it is trying to scare them? Is the shadow entity a guard dog of sorts for the astral? Or do they feed off the soul? Some people aren’t even trying to find the Astral when they have these experiences, they find out about the astral because of these experiences.

Please be patient cause I’m going to go down multiple rabbit holes that can help shed light on the conflation.

In studying the motivations and mechanisms of the occult, you discover that these secret societies and other practitioners of the “mysteries” claim to use the astral as a means for their activities. This supposedly goes back very far in our relative history to the original 007 John Dee, advisor to Queen Elizabeth the 1st and even far before him with King Solomon. John Dee supposedly communicated with the Enochian Angels and received instructions. King Solomon had control over demons.

You also have Alister Crowley and Dr. Jack Parsons who both have claimed to have communicated with these supposed interdemensional entities. When Crowley drew the entity Lam it looked similar to a grey alien. Parsons claimed to copulate with an entity with fiery red hair to try to conceive the moon child. Crowley claimed to serve an invisible master called Aiwass.

The further a person goes down these rabbit holes, the more outrageous it becomes and more similarities are discovered. There are some documents on FBI vault and CIA vault that pertain to some of these outstanding subjects.

Then you have modern day human trafficking and conspiracies related to the power elite and their abuse of humanity. Things that sound so atrocious that your mind thinks one would have to be “cold blooded” to do something so heartless (sorry reptiles). Well one of the hypothetical motives for these rumored acts is that the human soul has energy that can be harnessed. Another is that when a human is scared it releases a chemical adrenochrome in the brain that can be harvested and used as drug.

Vril. Chakras. Nazis. OTO. Jinn. Black Nobility. White grey black pope. Pope Innocent III. Egregores. Tower sacrifice. Robert Bigalow. Holographic matrix. Council of 13. Pindar Marquis de Libreaux. HAARP. Skinwalker Ranch. Operation high jump. MKULTRA. SRA. Vile vortices and lay lines. Mandela effect caused by reality termination at CERN. Silent weapons for quiet wars. DMT the spirit molecule. Planet X. Egyptian book of the dead. Tibetan book of the dead. Purgatory. Astral travel. Lucid dreaming. The Phoenix program. These are all samples of other respective further deep dives, that would make my unbearably long post even longer.

I get it. This all sounds outrageous, but so does a white scaled reptilian prince, who has lived much longer than a human life time, who has taken over a human body through advanced technology, to perform an audit of the human condition (that doubles as a legal notice), who is trying to guide us to learn how to speak to higher civilizations over vast distances in real time.

I’m not dismissing you, but I am highlighting the thought, that someone who is willing to entertain your message, is also willing to entertain equally outstanding concepts. Topics that a person who only prescribes to the official narratives, would scoff at. These other topics most likely were discovered way before stumbling on reptiliandude. I’m not saying any of it is truth, but I do think some people are searching for the truth of their own experience.

Whatever the truth may be, all of these topics are fascinating. Also, whatever the truth may be is muddled, because all these topics exist. Whether you agree with these associations, should not interfere with the ability to understand the perspective of those who are trying draw connections, even if they are not warranted. I think attempting to draw conclusions and associations is better than the mindlessness of accepting whatever is spoon fed.

garbotalk: As to the entities confronted while on DMT, they look scary, but they are there to clean you up so that you don’t bring a toxic attitude into the general gathering areas.

The Kayeen can negatively influence you, especially while in an altered state. And if you’re drugged and given suggestions while you sleep, who knows what crap you will believe and lies you will spread for them.

We’re fighting a war on multiple fronts. There is a battle over hearts and minds as well as a spy battle in the shadows, as well as an information battle, a hacking battle, a battle between those with faith against atheists and nihilists, and an armageddon future battle that will settle it all.

Slogging through it all to find the truth is what each of us must do. After we die, we’ll know it all.

GrizzlyBearly:  I have never had a DMT experience, but I have read about some of the experiences you are describing.

No matter what the truth is, I think one thing for certain is that there is a war happening on multiple fronts, and most people are not aware that a conflict is even happening.

garbotalk: Once you accept the premise that the Kayeen are the sociopaths created from their own augmentation, you can see how they do all the evil that they do without remorse, without fear, without regret. They manipulate and encourage evil because it tactically serves their interests to do so, nothing more.

Sociopaths like the Kayeen aren’t emotional. They don’t get joy or sustenance from the evil they do and encourage. Reptilians are actually quite emotional, like us. We have that in common.

So when a sociopath elite (human overwritten by Kayeen) declares that you must prove your loyalty by killing someone in some ritualistic way, they are echoing how they treated the pagans who worshipped them in the past, which have become the mobster like blood oaths of today.

These beings control our world through blackmailing or bribing our leaders. It is a tactical maneuver. They don’t love and respect us. They want to wear us. So lying to us and dumbing us down, confusing us with bullshit all the while blaming the reptilians for their deeds is psychopathy 101. Blame others for what you do. Yell louder. Distract. Disappear. Then repeat somewhere else over and over.

The difference between today’s manipulation and yesterday’s is that they don’t control the Internet like they control the media. So the truth has a chance of being heard.

I’ve asked RD about Crowley and many of the other occult guys. It all boils down to humans trying to gain advantage by speaking to other beings while in an altered state who are either misinterpreted, or outright lying to them. The human fear is of the unknown. That doesn’t mean the being you fear is trying to make you afraid. The entities on a DMT trip are mostly seekers just like you, with different appearances. But if the Kayeen are messing with you, it is propaganda, disinformation and lies.

The deck is stacked by the Kayeen, true, but we have some jokers up our sleeves that just may ruin their plans thousands of years in the making.

GrizzlyBearly: The strategy sounds effective. It is the same thing a cheating spouse would do. It is the same thing politicians do. Project your actions on others to keep them on the defensive. The blackmailing makes sense as well and is consistent with what he said in the past.

I personally have never had DMT (even though it is in all of our bodies), but the testimonies I have heard, in real life as well as in Dr. Strassman’s book are fascinating. The shadow people are independent of those experiences while completely sober. Their presence is felt before seen. If you have astral projected then you should have seen them on the way out. I have read enough comments of people trying to explain away another person’s experience as delusions, especially when no inebriation is involved. It is easy to tell someone their experiences are bogus, but it is hard for people with strange occurrences to put themselves out there. It is even harder to make sense of the experiences without telling anyone at all.

What about dreams? Are dreams just your brain trying to compile all the recent stimuli or is it something bigger that we just don’t understand yet? We spend a third of our lives asleep. If there is more to it, then our dream lives make up a significant portion of our existence.

I am curious though, of this bearer of knowledge. You have had more interactions with him than anyone. Is nothing a mystery to him? Are there no mysteries left for the Ael’ species? If that is the case, why would the Kayeen not believe in The One, while some of the Naigaje do? Can there still be some discoveries out there in the spiritual realm? I understand we are just stupid stinky apes, but maybe there is more to our soul than perceived. We don’t know what we don’t know. If we did, we would work on knowing it.

I hope your trump cards work.

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Dreams are outside of time. There is much happening there including particle entanglement that informs you from outside yourself. Inspiration, influence, pieces of the future, memories of the past, all of it is accessible to your mind.

There are great mysteries out there, even for them.

The Kayeen believe that the manifestations of God they’ve seen are a powerful alien that they fear and have obeyed, but think is no longer paying attention here. They are very aware of the Assembly, and fear them.

The Assembly and the One will come to us once we answer the beacon. The Kayeen know they will be kicked out once that happens (the Assembly always kicks out all the interfering aliens when they respond to a beacon) and are doing everything possible to prevent it.

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ACuriousHumanBeing:  If that were the case then why is the suffering here seen as an affront to god?

garbotalk: Suffering doesn’t nourish anybody. It may serve a purpose, teach a lesson, or demonstrate love and sacrifice. Our savior suffered on the cross in order to save us. That doesn’t nourish me, it blesses me.

I cannot watch someone suffer without feeling pain. Even actors who pretend to suffer elicit a pain response from me, tears, feeling hurt, frightened, and sad.

I’ve been told that I’m overly sensitive. It used to bother me, but now I believe it demonstrates my empathy that I can’t turn off, even if I wanted to.

So I’m careful what images I allow into my presence. They stay with me, sometimes haunting me. But they don’t nourish me, or anyone else.

Those who get pleasure from another’s pain are psychopaths who plague this world.

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garbotalk: You say nourish which means feed. I am not fed by this.

I say inspire or motivate. THAT we can get on the same page on.

There can be good inspiration from watching another’s suffering. Patriots have been inspired by the suffering of others to make changes or fight injustice.

I still grieve for the one who suffers.

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LucePrima: 
Rather late to this conversation, but…

Nicely said

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garbotalk:  I do love the sufferer, not the ones who cause suffering.

All things work together to bring glory to God, even suffering. That doesn’t mean those who cause it get a pass. God gives us insight and lessons throughout all of life, turning the coals of negative experience into diamonds of understanding. Good comes in spite of evil, not because of it.

The purpose of life is to overcome adversity and learn, recognizing the One who brought you forth and gave you this opportunity, bringing information to Him gleaned of your efforts.

The negativity of life is a necessary component in order to offer us free will. We have a choice to do good, or not. That requires an alternative allowed in this universe, but not rewarded for what suffering it brings.

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garbotalk: Most of us cause our own suffering, and we love ourselves. I was referring to those who cause OTHERS suffering.

Jesus said to love one another and I do try to do so. Sometimes it is hard. I do not love the Kayeen.

BlurpleFart: … I love them. As I see it, I don’t really have a choice not to.

They are children of God, same as we are. They’ve lost their way and made evil choices but I still love them because that’s what I was told to do by something far bigger than me.

I don’t have to like them but it only hurts me to hold hatred in my heart toward them.

vanishingdesire: Suffering can be beautiful. It’s not just a negative thing. The one who suffers and then triumphs over the challenge is considered a powerful individual, because we are taught to despise suffering, whether it is our own, or others.

When suffering is willfully imposed on another, it is an evil thing, and I think you’re within your right to be offended by human characterization of your (and other’s) kind as perpetrators of our suffering for your benefit. Don’t watch Madoka, you might be even more upset… though the Incubators are more accurately mapped to your Kayeen, I think.