reptiliandude: Alright… This whole thing about the omniscience or all-knowing aspect of God is a personal pet peeve among we reptilians.

God does NOT know “everything.”

For “God” to know everything would mean that he would have to stop time itself and destroy all probabilities, annihilating the universe and then—eventually—Himself.

Because, if ‘He’ didn’t annihilate ‘Himself,’ ‘He’ would still be thinking.

Therefore ‘He’ can’t know everything.

Hence… the Great Simulation.

And out of it the probability worlds occupied and explored by sentient life functioning as feedback devices.

This sort of universe is where ‘He’ gets ‘His’ best ideas.

But…

Those ideas are a result of compiling feedback from creatures such as ourselves.

KNOW THIS.

The so-called all-knowing aspect of God has crippled the church and all monotheistic religions since its introduction.

God cannot know something until it has happened and is an ESTABLISHED probability.

Since time does not bind God as it does creatures made of quarks, He can look down the ‘pipe’ a bit and see which probability is most likely to occur.

BUT…

That probability MUST have potential.

It must arise from within an actual, working ‘Aleph.’

It cannot arise from low yield and low energy infinities postulated from low odds.

Because some infinities are indeed larger than others and take center stage.

Always remember this.

I am very hesitant to discuss matters such as this as our ‘spiritual’ views are sobering, and could affect the course of the human species.

Again, I have no desire for this place to be misinterpreted, or the knowledge I’ve shared with you absconded by men whose purpose is the acquisition of coin.

But I really have to comment on this issue.

garbotalk:Edited.

So there are not alternate realities, different versions of our lives in the multi-verse. There are multiple universes, but only one with humanity in it.

When the Callibration Society peeks around the corner to see future events, they can only detect probabilities of events based on current conditions. If certain conditions change in the present, then future outcomes are revised. Thus, for living beings, there is no traveling to the future, because it isn’t a fixed point yet. It hasn’t been written yet. Whereas the past is fixed, from our linear perspective.

Prophesies reveal God’s intentions, His promises to us based on current and past circumstances.

But He is outside of time. So He knows how things turn out, does He not? Or, from God’s perspective, are the past and future full of probabilities both directions, that He can intercede at any point along the time line, past or future, once He makes a decision?

He sees all the events and possible events, but must choose to look at them to gather information from them? See through our eyes?

So when we die, the cumulation of our life experiences are returned to God, adding to the knowledge of the universe, accessable to all souls in the afterlife?

reptiliandude:

The multi-versions of yourself concept is nothing more than egotistical mental masturbation and head games intentionally perpetrated by anti-social dorks upon people bereft of deductive reasoning or a knowledge of how math actually works.

Think about it, for God’s sakes…

For another you to exist every single probability that lead up to your existence for millions of years would have to be unchanged.

Yet, you yourself would somehow… miraculously… be different?

It’s like the scenario where some asshole asks you if you could… would you go back in time and strangle Hitler in his crib as a baby.

No. I wouldn’t strangle a baby, you sick cunt…

I’d just bang a couple of cymbals outside his parents bedroom window and sing an old Lutheran hymn while they were shagging each other.

The nature of the game isn’t would you save the world at any cost…

It’s are you so stupid that it couldn’t figure out another way to keep Hitler from being born other than to murder a baby.

It’s a head game, like so many other of these ridiculous postulations out of the mouths of those no worse than TV Evangelists.

And they are no worse because they are promoting ignorance and egotistical speculation to promote themselves at the expense of critical thinking.

As for ‘quantum’ fluctuations producing ‘other you(s)’ with so-called ‘infinite possibilities…’

I will break a rule to make a point…

Our (reptilian) scriptures teach us that as we are alive, so are we also ‘dead’ and standing before He who evaluated our lives.

So as our lives are happening…

There is another ‘us’ screaming for us not to make the same mistakes.

And we are doing so before the Great Judge of the living and the dead while bound to a life we no longer can control.

This is not within your currency, but it is within our own.

So there are two ‘you(s)…’

One is born and is responsible for its actions under the principles of free will.

Then, there is a fluctuation ‘you.’

Not bound by forward time: but rather, bound to the life you are now and were to ‘them.’

You get to see your entire life ‘replayed.’

Not on a screen, but in actuality.

Again, this is a ‘reptilian’ belief.

It is not spoken or thought of among your own.

garbotalk: You are describing most sci fi scenarios involving time travel to the past, which I know you abhor. I’m glad to have that publicly confirmed by you.

No time travel is comforting, actually. Otherwise, the universe would be full of time paradoxes, time travelers and time cops.

I also prefer being the only me out in the universe. Even if I were cloned, the soul, family and experiences of that person would not be mine, and therefore who that person is, and also who I am, is unique, no matter the geneology. My choices are my own, or at least they should be, if my birth right was respected by those who claim to own me.

You edited, so I shall as well.

Jesus said in Luke 23:43 to the thief on the cross, “Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

Yet he hadn’t done all the things described after that moment.

So He had to be simultaneously there and here.

Many of us believe that when we pass on, we can watch our lives unfold, and those of our family.

I’ve often thought that my life is observed, by God, certainly, by spiritual beings invisible to me, by those who have passed on interested in me, and by myself, during judgement.

Doesn’t everybody? I don’t think you’ve polled enough humans on this subject.

What you said about probabilities with potential….that is why we’ve been rebooted so much, isn’t it. Our potential to grow and become more, to become greater vessels of information to send back to God, if you will, had stunted, due to various reasons.

I mostly blame our subjugators for that, but we also were to blame for giving up and accepting our lot rather than trying to improve ourselves. The greedy kings didn’t share knowledge and information, they hid it under a bush. We burned libraries and fought one another endlessly.

What a waste if we were to be rebooted again, all because the Kayeen are afraid to die.

StoicMouse: Don’t you suppose that death is a reasonable payment for the wonderful opportunities we have control over. It is for the sake of control that fuels dialog between good and bad. I believe that my choices have consequence and whenever we live or die we travel the journey which natural law constrains. If we have no constrains to our possibility, then we have no consequences for the privilege of making the choice. It is the “choice” which is the predominate motivation to live free and therefore we find free will. Finally, we should pay willingly, the price of life with our natural death. The value of life is self-evident by the mathematical certainty of death. Where oh death is your sting? Natural law gives power over the engine of either good or bad, afterwards these constraints harmonize in the afterlife, else the fiber of the universe would crack for the sake of favoritism.

garbotalk:

Rebooting is a nice word for wholesale slaughter with the exception of a few. Mass murder has been done to us with a detachment that horrifies, so much so that God Himself stepped in and said never again, His promise to us.

Suffering death from diseases purposely dumped on us, killing volumes of us prematurely, is another murderous, heinous act. Again, God will have His say on the sociopathic treatment of us by beings so craven and selfish, they care not for our painful deaths, or their own blackening of their souls in the doing of it.

Shortened lives, clipped purposefully to prevent our accumulation of knowledge and experience to resist our overseers is another grievous act initiated by beings seeking wealth above all. One day soon, we will have new bodies healed from intentional sabotage, and a new Earth equally healed.

Until then, we must do the best we can with the opportunities before us, to live lives of purpose and depth, fulfilling to our maker as we honor Him with our choices. Then, death is a reward for a life well lived, and provides the means for joy in returning to our Father’s loving arms, having served Him well.

I can’t help but feel sorry for those who see death as an end to avoid at all costs, including the murder of many others in order to prevent it. By avoiding death and judgement, they also avoid He who loves us most. What a travesty.

One thing humans really know is how to die.

StoicMouse:

I find your narrative focused on the awareness of humanity’s weakness mixed with an attitude of resistance which somehow derives a hope of a future world without suffering. I mean no disrespect to your testimony because you obviously have an unusual candor for your convictions. If predestination is valid, entitlement a myth, then suffering purifies the quality of one’s soul. If only for this lifetime’s scenario we have the potential vessel to navigate the champion’s reward, it should be established in perfection. Introspectively, your unique hope gives you strength during time of suffering. I think your inversion of temporary suffering into hope and strength falls short of the purpose for the fact finding quest which has fallen on you. I would like to know if you find solace in the hope after death regardless of who our oppressors may be or is your hope for mankind an adoption into a governance of some type of cosmic justice system (I imagine this system synonymous to the republic of galaxies)?

garbotalk:

I find great hope in the joy of heaven, reunification with loved ones, seeing our creator with my own eyes and thanking His son in person for His sacrifice. I also look forward to answers to all of my questions!

Holding those to task who oppress us is part of what I do. Encouraging those who suffer them is the other part.

The end of things is surely coming for each of us, even those who try to cheat death off the birth rights of humanity.

Because of the fires of suffering I have been through without blaming God, but embracing His love even while in pain, I know I am in His grace. Because I’m not perfect, His Son sacrificed Himself to pay my penalty. I gratefully accept that gift, though I am not worthy.

Earth is a crucible of sorts, and the activities here and temptations a test to see what we’re made of. For it is only through having choices that true free will shines, even if suffering is a part of that narrow path. If that adds to my rewards in heaven, that is not for me to say.

While alive, I will do the best that I can do, while I can do it, with the gifts I have been given, and let God lead the way. Whatever happens after I depart this world is in His hands.

What happens here is of significance throughout the universe. This system of empires overtaking emerging worlds and continually harvesting them, reducing them to slaves, body parts and play things is an abomination to He who made all things.

A precedent from the Father of us all will be set, so that all will know that what is given by Him as a birthright to those intended for one world is not to be stolen and plundered by the greedy neighbors of another.

StoicMouse:

A narrative which excludes a common perception is perplexing at best. It sounds like it is well with your soul and I was empathic toward your condition. I wish to read and perceive the anxiousness of the “alarm” but my perception is unwilling or unable to manufacturing the fight or flight response. Concerning hundreds of thousand years ago It is the survival of the fittest that incinerates the ability to fluctuate my empathy for my human predecessors who were not descendants of the first Adam. I read but I’m having difficulty understanding if humanity is entitled to be protected first and foremost through an opportunity for salvation by our creator (the second Adam), then why improve the adherence to that situation. Give a full witness to your priority message because if we are to die by the sword, by the sword we will die…. Secondly, that very citizenship which associates our final conditions as being concurrently with our present state should be axiomatic to the ones who believe. This is because our citizenship changes while in the flesh and is from above and not below. Therefore, if the unholy ravages the flock and death occur, then nature citizen receives a better homecoming.

garbotalk:

You’re looking at it backwards. Saying that our reward in heaven renders our suffering acceptable and that survival of the fittest is the reason for it defends the perpetrators. They are without defense. Humanity’s experiences dealing with their selfish, punitive actions adds to the negative futures of all of us on this plane.

Do I want my grandchildren to be given over to the machinations of evil beings because the so called fittest have ensconced it into our history? I do not. I don’t accept that the previous outcomes determine the validity of future ones. We do not have to repeat this misadventure. It is not locked in stone.

Those who commit the offenses can be redeemed. Those who suffer them can be restored. History does not determine the future, it only informs it as we evolve.

My point is, those who have seemed the fittest were not. Their morality, empathy and wisdom were overshadowed by their greed and covetousness. It has led to their societal degradation. Their feet are of clay and shall surely break under them as they fall and we rise.