Jesus is the face of God

Nope.

Jesus is the lie. Jesus is the sin. Jesus is the human trafficker. Jesus is the self hatred. Jesus is the cowardice.

He’s also the boss of the demons. Protip thats why they do what he says. Its right there in the Bible too.

Reptilians are not enslaved.

Yeah, actually they are.

They’re chipped, streamed, and hooked right up. Step out of the slightest line and its instant death.

Not only has Jesus removed their free will to think, live, and feel as they want, as something of a double cuck experiment Jesus genetically removed their sexual reproduction systems as well.

Thats why they hate, torture, and murder, us, by the way. Because they hate theirselves, and the choices of their species. Then Jesus takes this self hatred and teaches them to project that hatred onto us, instead of rightfully where it belongs, at Jesus.

But they are beginning to stand up with us.

Please.

God alone is sovereign yo.

Jesus is the lie. Jesus is the sin. Jesus is the human trafficker. Jesus is the self hatred. Jesus is the cowardice.

Nop

Nope. Absolutely not. You merely slander us by equating those in error with those following the Way.

There are two pieces to your slander. The first is the claim that YHWH is in any way equivalent to Lucifer. The second is that YHWH/Yeshua violates free will.

The first piece of slander is built on a fork of logic coming from the Greek versions of Isaiah 14:12 and 2 Peter 1:19. Specifically, the word phosphoros or “light bearer.” An allegory draws the Isaiah passage to link to “I saw Satan fall as lightning” in Luke 10:18. The linkage to Yeshua comes via the application of the reference inherent in “light bearer” to Venus and “morning star” which binds this reference to the believers’ spirit to Revelation 22:16. You follow Blavatsky by equating Adonai with Lucifer, missing her mistake of seeing “Adonai” as Marcion saw the Demiurge and “Lucifer” as the cosmic consciousness principle. In reality, the text “light bearer” is necessarily a creation. The Creator is the “the Light.” The “light bearer” is one that follows or followed Him. It is the understanding of those of us who follow Yeshua that He is the Logos of the Creator and the Creator is equivalent to YHWH.

For the second piece of slander, you falsely equate willing subjection to violation of free will. This requires properly recognizing these three personal aspects of the Creator. The incarnation of Yeshua is the manifestation of the Logos or Word principle. This is something even the Law of One acknowledges the Logos is a Primal Distortion of the One. The Spirit is the abiding intention of the Creator with all creatures and our relation to Him reveals the relation to the Creator Himself. These act in conjunction to reconcile mankind from the errors that bind the will against the Creator.

The fact of the matter is that no creature has a libertarian free will as a function of the fact that natural forces exist. The real free will is actually compatibilistic and it is limited by what the nature of the individual permits. The Kayeen, for example, rely on walling it off to possess and control individuals and eject their spiritual essence. This however, means that when we misuse our free will we can limit it as our ancestors have. But the Creator is not bound and His Spirit and Logos work to reconcile creatures to Himself. The result of the work of the Logos has been the net expansion of free will because it breaks the bindings.

The Scriptures of Christianity explicitly state Yeshua is the incarnation of the Logos. However, for those whose philosophy emphasizes operation by individual action independently from the Creator this poses a problem because “in Him we live and move and have our being” means that every one of our actions is also an action of the Logos working within us. The opponents always want to claim this for themselves because of their “service to self” orientation. Therefore they eschew anything that rightly presents the action of the Logos even though they must comply when the Logos Himself acts because it is His power they are ultimately subverting.

A person like this wars against the Creator trying to claim His goodness as theirs. That causes evil to arise because it alienates from the valid patterns of truth established by the Creator in His Logos. While simple errors such as failing to perfectly reflect the Creator are forgiven and reconciled by the Creator through grace which brings a “change of mind” (repentance) and integrity or faith. The forgiveness of the Logos establishes a double cure for the repentant by negating the negativity of judgment and the negativity of sin for a person who erred.

Despising grace, on the other hand, is spiritually harmful from this perspective since it introduces a different state where negativity abides in the creature. For those doing this because of “service to self” their reliance on negative actions causes them to eschew the purification of the grace of mercy since it conflicts with the illusion they wish to present that they did it all by themselves. The net result of unrepentance is being bound to negative energies and judged accordingly by the Creator. Gehenna is the natural end result for those who don’t realize this error and reach a peak “negativity.” They are then confined with all the other peak “negatives.” in the “outer darkness” with “weeping and gnashing” with a “worm that consumes and dies not.” These being metaphors for their own ambitions continuing to drag them into worse and worse suffering. The Creator is not guilty of doing this. It’s simply because He refuses to take the freedom of His creatures that He does permit such a thing. Even so, those in error do have an alternative to avoid this.

“As above” the personal incarnation is matched to the “so below” which is the personal connection of “integrity” or “faith” that a creature can have. It is this relation that “the Satan” in the book of Job attacks. But Job retains faith in his Redeemer and the Lord Himself restores his health. Like all other creatures, Satan cannot act without God’s permission. But Satan is not God and to equate the two is to neglect the valid distinction between creature and Creator. It is also a blasphemy of the Spirit of which Yeshua says, “whoever blasphemes the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.” That was said to those who accuse Him of being a devil. The reason for this is the neglect of the presence of the Creator’s Spirit within each individual and the attribution of hostility to the Creator.

Demons must abide His Will when He enforces it because they know they can be returned to being a “mercy reliant creature” which they would despise. Instead they comply and do something else.

The abuse of the powers given by the Logos is not equivalent to any evil being done by the Logos itself as your wrong equation surmises. Rather, it’s a double negation. The logical equivalent of “I am what I am” is that “I am not what I am not.” God is not evil, and does not abide in the evil, but the evil only exists because He lets them play a “double negation trick” where they avoid God’s intentions as best as they can. All such evils are all rooted in the idolization of the temporary desires as if they are an eternal truth which alienates creatures from the Creator. The willful choice to avoid the Creator, His Logos, and His True Intent, is playing with a black hole which sucks everything into it including the person abusing it. The will which is naturally compatibilistic, not an absolute freedom, becomes bound to the desire and must either reject the truth of the Creator’s reconciliation or else the Creator will direct the creature to a point where they begin to accept it again. The insanity of such a constant rejection of reality is the true nature of evil.

“Even the demons know there is one God… and shudder.” He doesn’t force people to be saved nor will He prevent them from rejecting Him. You can reject His grace if that’s your desire. But do not slander those of us who do receive it and claim we have no freedom because we receive it. We most certainly have freedom and there is no threat to suppress our consciousness.

garbotalk: Brilliant defense. It actually hurts me to hear my Lord slandered. Seeing the faith of others shine forth replenishes me and gives me hope that all is not lost, at least some of humanity will hold fast.

Dandy-O: In tort (law) libel is written and slander is spoken. Nevertheless, I hear you loud and clear.

emperorbma: They were far too eager to blaspheme the Holy Spirit in their post history. I suspect this poster is either an MK-ULTRA victim (cf. God-Satan inversion programming) or a Kayeen plant of some kind. Either way tragic and sad.

Also, thank you for being an ambassador to those visiting our world as friends.

ACuriousHumanBeing: Its a bit silly to think they must be some victim or Kayn of some kind.

Perhaps instead of calling him some devil or projecting some sort of victimization onto him, maybe instead you should just ask the dude why he believes, and then talk about your own experiences.

reptiliandude: Guess the RIF Bus never made it to your neighborhood…

Just a heads up: Gregor Mendel, John Dalton, and Isaac Newton were all Christians and men who made it a point to following the teachings of Jesus.

Not sure where you got Jesus crossed with the Marquis de Sade and Ron Jeremy.

Apologies to Ron Jeremy… I really was hoping that you’d get that ‘Mario’ gig, dude.

tastygoods:

Guess the RIF Bus never made it to your neighborhood…

Lead with an ad hom, ah the first tool of the weak, nice but nah see I road the big huge 48’ country bus.

Thats the one where we learned how to be intelligent, not to be a slave, fight for ourselves, protect the weak, and even a little about love.

Basically how to be functional with a bunch of disparate beings getting along without being shitty to each other.

You guys miss that one?

weak callout

Dalton, and Newton were closet Gnostic/Kabbalists/Luciferians/Masons were they not?

Huh imagine that.. Christian to the public, Lucifer in private.

Not sure where you got Jesus crossed with the Marquis de Sade and Ron Jeremy.

Apologies to Ron Jeremy… I really was hoping that you’d get that ‘Mario’ gig, dude.

Lets recap your reply: start with an adhom, follow with a lie that completely supports my assertions, then close with some weird pent up sexual frustration, never at all refute my true assertions.

Cool story bro, you come up with that all by yourself or the team help?

shyeejanut: In a war of words, if you register a logical fallacy and afterwards promote yourself as having taken the higher ground because you pointed it out, it only demonstrates that you really don’t know how the process works. Also, cut and paste arguments put people to sleep. This much I know, that winning arguments and converting people to your side requires showmanship. That is something you are sorely lacking.

tastygoods: Thanks. I appreciate your criticism, fair point and duly noted.

However at some point I question, in frustration of course, what is that of class and tact unto a slave?

A slave de facto values nothing, if not their own free will, the freedom of their species, existence at large, then poignant conversation?

If we were exchanging with rational actors of course rightfully and respectfully so, however our exception here is that some beings, although seemingly capable of intelligence, for one reason or another have zero ability to circumstantially exercise their full spectrum of intelligence.

That is the human battle we face today, to convince not only ourselves, but this fellow slave species to stand up and break this bondage and to dethrone its aggressor with full force and effect.

PrinceWizdom: Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever read at least a few of our ancient texts?

I don’t mean opinions written about them, i mean the texts themselves. When you do you will see a pattern emerging where you may realise you want to eat your words.

There is a difference between the Biblical Yeshua and the historical one.

This is not a war for the planet. This is a war for the minds of men.

tastygoods:

This is not a war for the planet. This is a war for the minds of men.

And kids. Jesus has a real nasty spot for the kids. Otherwise I have espoused this very principle often.

I don’t mean opinions written about them, i mean the texts themselves. When you do you will see a pattern emerging where you may realise you want to eat your words.

Ive studied a decades long bottom ups, breadth first, genuine detail of pretty much all the major religions, spiritualities, and philosophies, both in the positive and negative, combined with a great deal of internally focused mediation and thought, combined with a life time of science, metaphysical study, and computational experience.

If there is something amiss, please englighten. Otherwise I know the pattern you speak.

Unfortunately for some, that pattern turns violent, predatory, and spends years violently disturbing and violating the free will and very existence of those we love.

Consequently, when the pattern mutates into this mindless, void of anything intelligently actionable at all, and after a years long and quite torturous effort, one may realize the most grotesque of dark honors, the pattern is simply bored and wants an adversary.

Nothing about your life or your family matters versus the patterns desire to stick its head up your ass.

🤷‍♂️

shyeejanut: Tastygoods said: “And kids. Jesus has a real nasty spot FOR the kids. “

What does that mean, exactly? Are you promoting the falsehood here that he was a pedophile?

In the following passages he is specifically illustrating a comparative to the scale of the penalties assessed against those who might misuse their positions of trust to sexually molest children. He specifically forbade child molestation in both these passages.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/18-6.htm

https://biblehub.com/luke/17-2.htm

garbotalk: I banned him. This is not acceptable behavior.

explorer1357: Good… Dude was a lil too crazy even for me…

garbotalk: All that studying was apparently a waste of time for you speak nonsense.

garbotalk: Enough of this.