Interstellar Accountability and the Harsh Judgments of History

HUMANS OVERVIEW

Interstellar Accountability and the Harsh Judgments of History

In this intense exchange, forum participants and human representatives clash directly with Saldin, a Naigaje representative who characterizes humanity as a “manufactured artifice” and a corrupted genetic line slated for internal controls. Human users fiercely reject this mechanistic view, demanding basic empathy, respect, and a precise accounting of grievances rather than vague threats and condescension. The dialogue dives deep into historical atrocities, systemic corruption, and mutual accusations of exploitation, with humans defending their capacity for moral growth, love, and a genuine spiritual connection, while warning that those in power who allow profound evils in the name of profit ultimately risk their own legacy and descendants.

HUMANS OVERVIEW

Interstellar Accountability and the Harsh Judgments of History

In this intense exchange, forum participants and human representatives clash directly with Saldin, a Naigaje representative who characterizes humanity as a “manufactured artifice” and a corrupted genetic line slated for internal controls. Human users fiercely reject this mechanistic view, demanding basic empathy, respect, and a precise accounting of grievances rather than vague threats and condescension. The dialogue dives deep into historical atrocities, systemic corruption, and mutual accusations of exploitation, with humans defending their capacity for moral growth, love, and a genuine spiritual connection, while warning that those in power who allow profound evils in the name of profit ultimately risk their own legacy and descendants.

Image: Jews on selection ramp at Auschwitz, May 1944 (German Federal Archive via Wikimedia Commons)

Source: RD, "On Sky Burial and Beekeeping. (Or, how to rebuild a world)" r/reptiliandude ( 23 September 2018) https://www.reddit.com/r/reptiliandude/s/XYeB6H2mIL

Lunar_lander1: to Saldin:

If I can answer that on my behalf: For us humans, communicating and sincerly exchanging require empathy and respect. And -with all my respect- since the begining “you” have shown little to none, “you” have even displayed threats.

If you are disaptointed by something it must be a good thing to state it precisely and I’m shure we will go te great extent to make it better. One of my fellow said: It’s hurt to not knowing and being refused to be taught (or something like this). We don’t want to disrespect anybody (in general, there are always exceptions and sociopaths), but we have to understand what is wrong to rectify. Thank you for your understanding.

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Saldin (Bene Phalim), Naigaje: Against good counsel, your species was issued a free pass to longevity and were encouraged to develop steam power to provide you with the tools necessary to compel primitive savages to stop eating each other.

Instead, you made children your concubines, and set up a rule of terror that destroyed every other human adaptation that walked the face of the earth.

For reasons such as these, to say nothing of the lack of oversight on the part of your “creators”— their criminal obfuscation of this corruption of a genetic line falsely promoted as their salvation…

You are a manufactured artifice that has become corrupted and nothing more.

Because of this, you have been slated for internal controls that shall eventually override your processing errors.

You shall be brought forth into the light of day kicking and screaming and those of you who wish not to comply can return back to the trees from whence you came.

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Reptiliandude: Greetings, Old friend.

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Saldin (Bene Phalim), Naigaje: Ah, the seditionist. Have you told them that you are a wanted criminal among even your own kind? I have observed your actions here and your confessions of guilt are written upon every page. You seek to destroy an enterprise that has finally brought a lasting peace despite irreconcilable differences that resulted in thousands of years of endless war and senseless bloodshed.

This traitor to his own kind seeks to destroy a lasting and substantive peace between multiple worlds.

Do not be deceived by his entreaties to superstition and similarities of faith.

Our interests here are to preserve the human species from the stress of overpopulation and to reverse the effects of the damages caused by ambitions wrought without either foresight or conscience.

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Reptiliandude: You left out the part where you and I and others like us plunged their world into a thousand years of environmental upheaval in order to access that corporate enterprise.

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Saldin (Bene Phalim), Naigaje: And at that time, if I recall correctly, you were the one shouting the loudest that the species needed to be exterminated in its entirety.

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Reptiliandude: Until our hands were stayed… Yes.

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Saldin (Bene Phalim), Naigaje: And where are those who stayed our hands now?

They say nothing and do nothing.

And they have said nothing and done nothing for millennia.

And what has become of these so-called “keepers of the promise” in the last few generations?

Have they not been herded like cattle into the most ignoble deaths at the bequest of entire nations?

And whence came their promise of deliverance?

It came from others foreign to them and from amongst their own kind.

And those “deliverers” also circumvented the “free-wills” of those who would otherwise have slain them.

What rational mind could not conclude that their conspicuous absence of obstruction towards such reprehensible violence directed against the keepers of mere health and safety codes codified into dogma wouldn’t clearly demonstrate indifference or even tacit approval of our influences here to prevent future occurrences of the same?

None have stayed our hands in these, our more recent endeavors.

For these endeavors are a result of a union of minds intent on the preservation of this species despite your insane protestations to the contrary.

Everything is a contest of wills and the road to power.

You do not empower those who lack the foresight and pragmatism necessary to wield it.

Are you blind to how their scientific progress has outpaced their societal responses to the same?

What happened to you, (name withheld) to turn you into this thing that seeks to bring war to your own people and to bring to nothing the labors of thousands of years?

I can’t even speak to you without being overcome with revulsion.

Edit: Let it be entered into the record that the representative spoke the word “protestations” and the transcriber mistakenly translated it as “admonitions.”

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Reptiliandude: And was it not Kayeen influence which convinced banks in Munich and New York to fund the ambitions of the son of Alois? Knowing full well that such things would lead to human experimentation to determine the cause of ‘connectivity issues?’ The justification to conscience (if any) was that was that this long-suffering people would, as a result, receive a homeland of their own in the bargain although many innocents would be slain.

Again, ‘the end justifies the means’ is how it plays out among us.

Did that tree of many eyes and the one atop that mercy seat not warn us that it would bless them who bless these and curse them who curse these?

Were we both not there when it spoke unto us?

How can you speak so casually of its silence knowing what it can do and the forces it can wield?

We are by our very insight held to a higher standard, and as such shall receive the greater condemnation.

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ShyeeJanut: The Naigajian representative has expressed no interest in further discourse.

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PrinceWizdom: Omg. Everything is coming into picture. The jews were the keepers of promise experimented on by Hitler and his underlings at the behest of the Consortium. And now we know why. Not only was to find the reasons for the mistakes in our ‘calibration’ but also test the Assembly and the fiery one that lays claim to this planet.

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Garbotalk: Yes. It emboldened them to do as they please.

God has given them just enough rope to hang themselves.

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Garbotalk: Noble Saldin,

Great Naigaje soldiers such as yourself have seen terrible evil amongst our kind. The Kayeen laid waste to your world and used primitive, starving, axe wielding proto-humans to attack your suffering species. I understand how our faces strike anger and revulsion in you, for they remind you of these vicious, albeit drugged and starved, cannibals.

Your desire to end us using comets during the great cataclysm 13,000 years ago nearly came to fruition. But what a terrible cost it was to your species, both physically and financially.

For that One who sees through our eyes rose up against you, and slaughtered those who dared cross Him. He demanded of your species to fund the restoration of our world and help those of us who survived. And you have done so.

Yet, we were lifted up only to have yokes placed upon us, that we might provide you profit. Our bodies have suffered from your put upon contagions. We have died over and over as you have allowed these Kayeen enemies of yours to experiment on us, enjoy perversions of pedophilia from our children, and manipulate us to turn away from the One, so that we would not call upon Him.

And now the enemies of your past are gathering at your gate. They are creating new weapons to use against you, those bodies of ours that they so crave, overwritten with their sociopathic and twisted minds. How strong and powerful will they be then?

When my children are overwritten by these ancient, covetous beings, and they again attack your home world, what will you say to your descendents who ask you why you let this happen?

Are you so desperate to wash your hands of us that you do not see the evil you are allowing to happen to us?

I ask you, are we who educate and love our children, who create laws to provide justice, who worship the same One, who love and laugh, who create innovative and marvelous things, who are evolving at breath taking speeds…..are we not different today than we were before? Have we not grown? Has the God who interceded on our behalf not sent Jesus Christ to us as He did Yeja to you?

His patience is long, but not everlasting. Do you dare to doom your descendants to pay for the choices you make today?

We are in need, one last time. And though your profit will be reduced, you will still have your society, your proud houses, your faith, your Naigaje.

Let us retain our minds, that our souls may offer our uniqueness to the Father. Those of us with light and hope seek goodness and mercy. Let us not be manipulated against our own best interests, to call out the name of God.

Let us answer the beacon.

Had your seditionist not fled your shores and come to ours, your species might pay a terrible penalty for the evil you have done to us in arrogance.

He gives to us his counsel, true, but it is for YOU he has made such a sacrifice, that the Naigaje not be reduced and diminished as we have been reduced and diminished more times than you can count. There must be atonement, and he offers himself for that purpose, though he alone is not responsible for the entirety of it.

He answers the call of the One. Who are you to stand in his way? Why would you question the motivations of your own white prince? Was he not promised to you? Is he not fulfilling the same?

Do you not see the difference in your friend who hated humanity with all of his heart, and yet seeks to help us now? Why ever would he do such a thing, if not compelled to action by the One?

Humble yourself and see clearly those who stand before you. We are not your enemy. He is not your enemy.

Your enemies lie beneath clenched teeth, passing papers and legalities before you, seeking to blind you to their purpose as they do to us. Open your eyes noble Naigaje! It is not too late!

GrizzlyBearly: Mankind has done much good and bad throughout our history. There is plenty of blame to place at our feet, however, we are a diverse species. Our moral spectrum is quite large. Our Intelligence spectrum is as well. In order for agendas to be met, the most corrupted and compromised are the ones elevated to positions of power.

Not only that, but it is then encouraged to systemically condition the corruption and compromise generationally. The royalty, most of the decision makers, the wealth holders, the famous are all compromised. I’m sure not every single one, but the majority. So much so, that the real leaders with moral conviction and backbone are so disgusted, they don’t want to be in positions of larger authority. They don’t want themselves, their children, or those they love to be attacked or compromised.

Then after all that. We are judged by others with thoughts like, “Look at how you are destroying your planet, look at the trash and pollution!” , “Look at how your people treat each other! Why should you get any compassion?! You don’t even have compassion for yourselves!” Yet those with the loudest platforms are compromised themselves. Everything is corrupted for our conditioning, to not elevate our position, but to feign progress while compromising our souls. Our news sources, our education system, our healthcare system, our WATER, our FOOD, our monetary system, our religions, and our governments are all POISONED!!!!!!

Anyone we have, who tries to better our species, or subvert the despicable agendas, is murdered!! I’m not trying to make excuses. We have a saying on our planet: excuses are like assholes, everybody has one. What I am trying to point out is the trap is deeply entrenched. We have many good people here. People choose professions so they can help others, only to be downtrodden when they discover the corruption and manipulation.

I believe in personal responsibility. I can’t control what my own parents choose to do, much less my ancestors that I never met. What I can do is, be the change I want to see in the world, and encourage my children to be the same. I don’t care to be super rich or famous. It would be nice to have wealth, if only to allow time for me to better myself. The materialism that has been pushed upon us is poison in itself. Maybe we would have been better off to have been left in the fields and never been “civilized” or “elevated” beyond the natural positions we owned. However, what happened, happened.

Most of our population is stuck in a rat maze. They go to work all week just to cover their bare necessities. They do chores and spend the rest of their time with friends, and family. Maybe they binge watch Netflix, troll reddit, or watch their inconsequential sports team, but they don’t have the resources to do much more. They certainly don’t have the awareness to break their shackles and seek to improve themselves and humanity. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t if the circumstance were different. And it doesn’t mean some aren’t already trying to. I am speaking more in a generalization of our species.

I understand we carry the curses of our ancestors, I’m just pleading to have some compassion for our plight. I don’t even want our jail-keepers to face repercussions for the conditions of our confinement. I just want to be free. We can be better. We just need truth and a removal of the manipulation. In my beliefs, those in a position of authority, who abuse their position and prey on their lessers, are more culpable for their crimes. They not only had the ability to do different, but they also create a culture of abuse because they are the trend setters. They are looked up to. In the end, they are mimicked.

ACuriousHumanBeing: They were meant to teach us, but now they enable us. In fact, they enable proudly now.

Its rather depressing isn’t it?

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